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[Old_Man]

di site2 anime blom kluar....

di yutub jg blom ada

[superhuman]

Ternyata hanya sikap rendah hati dari kubo saja ya.

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di site2 anime blom kluar.... di yutub jg blom ada

Kakek nyari yang sub english?
Kalo yang itu memang belum, raw-nya aja baru keluar

[Xaliber]

Ada info tentang SGKK Subs (sub Inggris berkwalitet):

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SGKK already said in June or July that their English-translated release of the movie would take around 2 weeks after the DVD release.

Masih 2 minggu lagi

Sementara itu, tentang polemik Kubo sebagai Executive Director, ini saya ada terjemahannya (thansk to nacchan @ BA):

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In this movie I was credited as "Executive Director". However honestly speaking, for the DVD version I want that title to be removed. I already asked them to do so. This is because I feel I didn't participate enough in the production of this movie to warrant such a title. I already had this feelings since the premier of the theatre version, however when I met with the producer staff to persuade them, the movie was already in the editing process so it couldn't be removed. I had a meeting with the scriptwriter - I think it was in the year preceding the movie premiere, in early summer. The meeting was incandescent, and we discussed ideas until nearly dawn. The scriptwriter took careful notes of the ideas that I had contributed jointly during the meeting. The response was that we were able to come up with some very interesting stuff. I had the feeling that before winter at the latest the scenario would be completed - but in the end, the scenario was sent to me only in the spring of the year of the movie premiere. Furthermore, the scenario didn't contain any of the ideas of the meeting... apparently, the notes taken at that time were not transmitted to the director and to the other members of the staff. Later on, we had some trouble with the production department agreeing to some changes decided by the scriptwriter, and the scriptwriter worked hard with the changes that were made - but unfortunately, there was no more time. The fact that characters that first made their entry in the original work like Ichigo, Kokutou and Shuuren had a very Bleach-like feeling is thanks to all of the seiyuu that gave them their voices, and to all of the staff that drew them. Once again, thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Jadi... kayaknya bukan kerendahan hati Kubo... kayaknya memang ada masalah di penulisan naskahnya.



Di situ ditulis kalau ide-ide yang udah dikasih Kubo ternyata nggak jadi direalisasikan di hasil akhirnya, karena perubahan2 dari scriptwriter-nya. Katanya, satu-satunya yang bikin movie ini masih terasa BLEACH adalah karena seiyuu dan animator-nya...

Ini tulisan aslinya (dari kover DVD-nya):
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/picrantkubohv.jpg/

[superhuman]

Ah... akhirnya dapat kepastian kapan sub inggris bakal keluar. Udah langsung ngak sabar aja nih,

Jadi kemungkinan memang ada perselisihan diantara staff ya, sampai ide kubo pada akhirnya ngak di realisasikan. Atau memang ada yang salah sama ide kubo-sensei?

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satu-satunya yang bikin movie ini masih terasa BLEACH adalah karena seiyuu dan animator-nya...

Sepertinya memang harus menyaksikan langsung movie yang satu ini.

[angoez]

Kalo yang udah keburu download RAW-nya,
ini ada sub english,..
Kalo ditanya Kualitiasnya, lumayan lah kalau menurut saya

[NoGrp]_Bleach_M4_[unofficial].ass

[denishime dellaquiorra]

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Di situ ditulis kalau ide-ide yang udah dikasih Kubo ternyata nggak jadi direalisasikan di hasil akhirnya, karena perubahan2 dari scriptwriter-nya. Katanya, satu-satunya yang bikin movie ini masih terasa BLEACH adalah karena seiyuu dan animator-nya...

Oh iya, yang masalah scriptwriter itu ya. Iya, katanya Kubo-sensei kecewa sama scriptwriter yg pertama soalnya yang pertama itu nulis skrip tapi ga mencerminkan ciri khas Bleach. Karena, setau saya juga di movie ini terkesan unsur gelapnya lebih banyak.

Ini lebih jelas isi pesannya:
Translated by sheetz (FLOL)

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□■□ 劇場版第四弾「地獄篇」初回限定DVD特典の原作者コメント □■□ Fourth Movie "Hell Volume" Limited Edition DVD Special Author's comments 映画には｢製作総指揮｣として僕の名前がクレジットされていますが、 I was credited for being the "Executive Producer" for the movie, 本当のことを言えば、この肩書はDVD化する際に外して欲しい、 but the truth is that I asked that this title be removed というお願いをしていました。これは僕自身が本作に対して製作総指揮と at the time it was to made for DVD. This is because I feel 名乗れるほどに貢献できていない、と感じていた為です。 I wasn't able to contribute enough to be called the executive producer of this work. この思いは劇場公開時からあったのですが、編集部をはじめ、 I felt this way from the time of the theatrical release, but the editing had begun 映画の製作委員会側から説得に遭い、外す事はできませんでした and being swayed by the production committee, I wasn't able to have it removed. 脚本家さんとの打ち合わせを行ったのは I believe the initial meeting conducted by the scriptwriter 時期的には映画公開の前年の初夏だったかと思います was held around the beginning of summer the year before the film's release. 打ち合わせは白熱し、明け方近くまでアイデアを話し合い There was heated debate and ideas were discussed until nearly dawn. 脚本家さんは打ち合わせで出し合ったアイデアをノートにびっしりとメモしていました The scriptwriter took copious notes of the submitted ideas. 非常に面白いものができるという手応えがあり、 There was much interesting feedback. この分だと遅くとも冬前には脚本は上がってくるだろうと感じていました I felt that at that rate the script would be done before winter at the latest. しかし結局、僕の所に脚本が回ってきたのは 映画公開年の春になってからでした But in the end the script made its way to me around spring the year of release. しかも、その脚本の中には打ち合わせの内容が入っておらず Furthermore the script did not contain the ideas from the initial meeting. あの打ち合わせの中でだしたアイデアは監督さん、 その他のスタッフには伝わっていなかったようでした Apparently the ideas from that meeting were not submitted to the supervisor and other staff. その後も、製作委員会が脚本家さんの交替を決断するなどトラブルが相次ぎ Afterwards there also was trouble following the change in scriptwriter decided by the production committee. 交替された脚本家さんも頑張って下さいましたが The substitute scriptwriter worked hard on the changes いかんせん時間がありませんでした but unfortunately there wasn't enough time. 一護やコクトー、朱蓮を始め、本作に登場するキャラクター達が Starting from Ichigo, Kokutou, and Shuren, to the other characters appearing in this work, BLEACHらしくあったとすれば、それは全て声を入れて下さった if there is a resemblance to Bleach, it is entirely due to 声優の皆さんと、絵をつけて下さったスタッフの皆さんのお陰です the voice actors and illustrators. 改めて、心からお礼を申し上げます Once again I thank them from the bottom of my heart.

Itu, yang di bold, mungkin ini penyebabnya kenapa Kubo sampai gak mau dia di credit sebagai Ex. Producer, seperti postingan saya sebelumnya;

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Dan juga, keliatannya Kubo ga begitu ikut andil dalam proses pembuatan film, karena banyak ide-ide baru yang makin menambah citarasa daripada plot yang Kubo rencanakan.

EDIT: Youtube sudah memiliki kualitas Eng-Sub yang bagus. Bagi yang penasaran dengan filmnya, cek this out:
Bleach Movie 4 Hellverse Eng-Sub

This post has been edited by denishime dellaquiorra on August 27, 2011 12:22 pm

[Xaliber]

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BLEACHらしくあったとすれば、それは全て声を入れて下さった if there is a resemblance to Bleach, it is entirely due to 声優の皆さんと、絵をつけて下さったスタッフの皆さんのお陰です the voice actors and illustrators.

Ini lho, miris banget

Berarti menurut Kubo, ceritanya sebegitu "nggak banget"-nya, sampai2 dia bilang yang bikin mirip sama BLEACH cuma karena seiyuu dan ilustrator anime-nya. Ini bukan BLEACH, kalo menurut Kubo...

Btw soal sub Inggris, asik akhirnya

Tapi di komentar katanya sub-nya ilang Nis di 1:04:00? (cuma 1 1/2 jam ya ternyata?)

[good-shinigami]

Itu maksudnya gak mencerminkan bleach gimana ya si kubo, apa mungkin karna orang orang seireitei yang muncul disitu dikit dan gak ada adegan para shinigami yang lain bertarung... kayak di movie movie sebelumnya

wah di yutub engsub nya dah ada ya ?
dari kemaren nonton yg raw bener bener gak ngerti ngomong apaan
thx dah ngeshare